X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:30:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
      Having returned from ICHC 2003, I am inspired, as only the retired can be, with ideas for presentations at map conferences.  I think the following suggestions would make excellent panel ideas as well as individual presentations should anyone be inspired enough to do them.  Don't look at me: I am languishing in the wilderness here without access to a lot of material.
 
1) Heirs of Empire.  The mapping agencies in former colonial territories have links to the former colonial power.  At the least, certain techniques have been inherited within an administrative structure.  Springing to mind are the Survey of Israel, the Survey of Jordan, the Survey of India, and the Survey of Pakistan.  The French Empire can provide its own set of examples as well.  Both the French and the British established agencies to help the former colonies with mapping.  A panel on this topic would look at how much the current mapping agencies in selected countries owe the mapping activities of the former colonial power.
 
2) Extra-Cartographic Elements on/in Cartographic Items.  The most obvious are views of harbors & headlands on nautical charts, heraldic devices on the borders of British county maps, and the illustrations of farms and town buildings in North American county atlases.  The map community sits on these "non-carto graphics" which could be used by those not in the map field.
 
3) Viticultural Cartography.  I see viticultural cartography ranging from the depiction on medieval estate maps of vinyards through maps indicating the distribution routes of wine to the regional wine atlases designed as much for coffee tables as for consultation.  Yes, maps on wine labels would be included.  And, yes, this is a fancy name for "wine maps."  This topic might be a good one for ICHC 2005 with a series on "Wine Maps of the Danubian Basin."  Hmm, are there beer maps comparable to wine maps?  I know of some for breweries the US, but that is the extent of my experience.
 
            J. B. Post
 
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:51:07 -0400 From: Bert Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new JB et al Ref your Para 3 I have collected maps on wine labels for about five years now, and have several hundred from scores of countries. They are remarkable in their diversity. It began as a lark after a posting on MapHist (by you, I think ) but evolved into something more serious as I began to understand the nature of wine marketing in the US and the role played by label design. I have given several illustrated talks and written an article on "Vintage Cartography: The Arts of Maps on Wine Labels." In addition to labels, possible papers might include the use of maps (and mapping software) in viticulture, as well as thematic mapping regarding wine, from many of the LeVasseur maps in the Atlas Nationale to the more recent multiple editions of the /Wine Atlas/ of Hugh Johnson. I am not certain, however, that any of this fits into the announced focii of ICHC 2005 per se. (Perhaps you would like to take the lead in organizing a session?) Regarding your question re beer labels, I do not collect those, but I do know of a few cartographic beer labels. A local brew, now defunct, in York, Pennsylvania, used a map from the collection of John Docktor, a specialist in early Pennsylvania cartography, to illustrate their label. Obviously there is also the label from the Shipyard Brewery that celebrated ICHC 2003. (I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I liked it enough to bring home a case.) I too would welcome information about beer label maps from outside the US. In other beverages, Havana Cola, found in Miami, bears a nice map of the island of Cuba on both its regular and diet editions. (A low calorie map --what a concept!) Bert Johnson J.B. Post wrote: > Having returned from ICHC 2003, I am inspired, as only the > retired can be, with ideas for presentations at map conferences. I > think the following suggestions would make excellent panel ideas as > well as individual presentations should anyone be inspired enough to > do them. Don't look at me: I am languishing in the wilderness here > without access to a lot of material. > > 1) Heirs of Empire. The mapping agencies in former colonial > territories have links to the former colonial power. At the least, > certain techniques have been inherited within an administrative > structure. Springing to mind are the Survey of Israel, the Survey of > Jordan, the Survey of India, and the Survey of Pakistan. The French > Empire can provide its own set of examples as well. Both the French > and the British established agencies to help the former colonies with > mapping. A panel on this topic would look at how much the current > mapping agencies in selected countries owe the mapping activities of > the former colonial power. > > 2) Extra-Cartographic Elements on/in Cartographic Items. The most > obvious are views of harbors & headlands on nautical charts, heraldic > devices on the borders of British county maps, and the illustrations > of farms and town buildings in North American county atlases. The map > community sits on these "non-carto graphics" which could be used by > those not in the map field. > > 3) Viticultural Cartography. I see viticultural cartography ranging > from the depiction on medieval estate maps of vinyards through maps > indicating the distribution routes of wine to the regional wine > atlases designed as much for coffee tables as for consultation. Yes, > maps on wine labels would be included. And, yes, this is a fancy name > for "wine maps." This topic might be a good one for ICHC 2005 with a > series on "Wine Maps of the Danubian Basin." Hmm, are there beer maps > comparable to wine maps? I know of some for breweries the US, but > that is the extent of my experience. > > J. B. Post > _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Paul Hughes" To: Subject: [MapHist] Conference: Heirs of Empire Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:54:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new A particularly interesting heir is the Nautical Almanac, or almanacs, because of how they came to be created; the recent sesquicentennial symposium in Washington was conspicuously devoid of proper history. Only one of the old empires keep an almanac going, so, with GPS in existence, how long will Imperial America keep its hardcopy version. 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Also unaccountably refreshed, I offer some comments. 
1) Seeking to emphasise how far the history of national surveys may be embedded in the history of the former imperial powers is not guaranteed to whet the appetite of the national surveys of those independent countries to participate.  The Survey of India and Survey of Pakistan are keen to stress how far their technology has marched on: Dov Gavish may have some comments about Survey of Palestine and Survey of Israel.  Those who read the current annual reports of the surveys of the states of the Malaysian Federation, Indonesia, Fiji and the Pacific Island nations, will know the pride taken in independent survey activity.  And what about Australia and New Zealand, whose colonial surveys commenced in the nineteenth century?  And where would you put pre-1776 survey activity in North America?  Just to treat DCS/DOS and the French equivalent alone would be weak, but their situation is very different from the national surveys of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.  I'd like to see the last sentence in your topic #1 covered in proper academic fashion in volumes 5 and 6 of the Chicago History of Cartography, but that might mean redefining it as a History of Mapping.
2) Views of harbours and headlands are present on nautical charts, or in accompanying books of sailing directions ('pilots'), for a purpose, as coastal recognition to guide the mariner.  That's why some of them appear to lack artistic 'focus': as harbour approach tools they're designed to emphasise the empty wet part between the interesting dry bits.  Charts, views and sailing directions call to be used together, and no one part can fully be considered alone.  The same views appeared on separate plates, then on charts, and later as art-paper plates in books of text sailing directions: do you mean to consider one form alone, and to isolate them from the texts and charts?  Many libraries now keep their charts in a favoured place because they look nice, and exile the accompanying pilots to distant outstores as government publications of a technical boring sort.
3) Go with the wine!
Andrew
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      Having returned from ICHC 2003, I am inspired, as only the retired can be, with ideas for presentations at map conferences.  I think the following suggestions would make excellent panel ideas as well as individual presentations should anyone be inspired enough to do them.  Don't look at me: I am languishing in the wilderness here without access to a lot of material.
 
1) Heirs of Empire.  The mapping agencies in former colonial territories have links to the former colonial power.  At the least, certain techniques have been inherited within an administrative structure.  Springing to mind are the Survey of Israel, the Survey of Jordan, the Survey of India, and the Survey of Pakistan.  The French Empire can provide its own set of examples as well.  Both the French and the British established agencies to help the former colonies with mapping.  A panel on this topic would look at how much the current mapping agencies in selected countries owe the mapping activities of the former colonial power.
 
2) Extra-Cartographic Elements on/in Cartographic Items.  The most obvious are views of harbors & headlands on nautical charts, heraldic devices on the borders of British county maps, and the illustrations of farms and town buildings in North American county atlases.  The map community sits on these "non-carto graphics" which could be used by those not in the map field.
 
3) Viticultural Cartography.  I see viticultural cartography ranging from the depiction on medieval estate maps of vinyards through maps indicating the distribution routes of wine to the regional wine atlases designed as much for coffee tables as for consultation.  Yes, maps on wine labels would be included.  And, yes, this is a fancy name for "wine maps."  This topic might be a good one for ICHC 2005 with a series on "Wine Maps of the Danubian Basin."  Hmm, are there beer maps comparable to wine maps?  I know of some for breweries the US, but that is the extent of my experience.
 
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X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Authentication-Warning: alpha1.csd.uwm.edu: bruf owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:55:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Bruce Fetter To: "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" Subject: RE: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Re. Andrew Cook's comments on post-colonial mapping, readers ought to look at Jeffrey's Stone's work on Zambia and C.G.C. Martin's . ************************** Bruce Fetter * History Department, UW-M * P.O. Box 413 * Milwaukee, WI 53201 * Telephone: (414) 229-5207* FAX: (414) 229-2435 * ************************** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:13:08 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new For those who may not be able to identify the two (or more) works in Bruce Fetter's message one of them is:- Maps and surveys of Malawi : a history of cartography and the land survey profession : exploration methods of David Livingstone on Lake 'Nyassa' . . . / C[olin]. G.C. Martin. - Rotterdam : Balkema, 1980. - ix,270p. : ill., maps (some col.), fig. ; 29 cm. - ISBN 90-6191-092-7 [further data in entry no. 81:33(056) of the 'Imago Mundi Bibliography' in 1981, vol. 33] And the 'Stone-work' on Zambia (formerly known as Northern Rhodesia) could be one or more of several (articles or monographs). Francis Herbert (pedantic bibliographer for 'Imago Mundi') f.herbert@rgs.org http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives']; http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/maps/imago.html -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Fetter [mailto:bruf@csd.uwm.edu] Sent: 01 July 2003 17:55 To: 'maphist@geog.uu.nl' Subject: RE: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics Re. Andrew Cook's comments on post-colonial mapping, readers ought to look at Jeffrey's Stone's work on Zambia and C.G.C. Martin's . ************************** Bruce Fetter * History Department, UW-M * P.O. Box 413 * Milwaukee, WI 53201 * Telephone: (414) 229-5207* FAX: (414) 229-2435 * ************************** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "StJohn, Michael" To: "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" Subject: [MapHist] descriptive standards Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:19:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear all, I know many people dislike this type of approach, but I find myself with no alternative but to use it, so apologies. Those of you who can help me will do so, and those of you who cannot will hear no more about it! I am a curator of manuscript maps in the Dept of Manuscripts at the British Library. I am trying to write a dissertation on descriptive standards for maps in archival collections and am looking for a cross section of professional opinion. I have a very short questionnaire (9 straightforward questions) relating to the nature and use of descriptive standards for map collections. I will say no more at this time other than to ask that anybody who is prepared to answer my questions please contact me directly to avoid disturbing those list members who have no interest. Many thanks Michael St John michael.stjohn@bl.uk ************************************************************************** Now exhibiting at the British Library Galleries: Painted Labyrinth : the world of the Lindisfarne Gospels Until 28 September 2003. Admission Free. ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: np003a5704@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:40:17 +0100 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Nick Pelling Subject: RE: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2003 09:40:21.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[F45FE200:01C3407D] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear maphisters, At 17:31 01/07/2003 +0100, Andrew Cook wrote: >2) Views of harbours and headlands are present on nautical charts, or in >accompanying books of sailing directions ('pilots'), for a purpose, as >coastal recognition to guide the mariner. This certainly interests me - but may I please ask if anyone knows of similar recognition aids on European maps of canals or rivers (and so depicting views of towns or other local features [perhaps even lodgings, as in itineraria?], rather than harbours), pre-1550? Even so, I too say "go with the wine"! :-) Best wishes, .....Nick Pelling..... _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Sjoerd de Meer" To: Subject: Re: [MapHist] descriptive standards Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:50:29 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Michael, Send me your questionnaire . I will try to answer them. Sjoerd de Meer, curator Maritiem Museum Rotterdam Leuvehaven 1 3011 EA Rotterdam e-mail: s.demeer@maritiemmuseum.nl o"r: de.meer@hccnet.nl (private) ----- Original Message ----- From: "StJohn, Michael" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: [MapHist] descriptive standards > Dear all, > > I know many people dislike this type of approach, but I find myself with no > alternative but to use it, so apologies. Those of you who can help me will > do so, and those of you who cannot will hear no more about it! I am a > curator of manuscript maps in the Dept of Manuscripts at the British > Library. I am trying to write a dissertation on descriptive standards for > maps in archival collections and am looking for a cross section of > professional opinion. I have a very short ard > questions) relating to the nature and use of descriptive standards for map > collections. I will say no more at this time other than to ask that anybody > who is prepared to answer my questions please contact me directly to avoid > disturbing those list members who have no interest. > > Many thanks > Michael St John > michael.stjohn@bl.uk > > > ************************************************************************** > > Now exhibiting at the British Library Galleries: > > Painted Labyrinth : the world of the Lindisfarne Gospels > > Until 28 September 2003. 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The > British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the > author. > > ************************************************************************* > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: krogt@pop.geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:09:21 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of Peter van der Krogt ) Subject: [MapHist] Death of Hugo Stibbe X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Non-member submission from ["Mitchell, Rose" ] Sarah Tyacke has asked me to pass on the following news from Canada, received from Louis Cardinal via the ICA list (apologies for cross-posting): Hugo Leendert Philip Stibbe Hugo Stibbe died in Ottawa, Canada, on 24th June, 2003. He was esteemed in archives and libraries around the world for his contribution to the development of international standards for the description of cartographic material and archival records. Hugo was born in Samarang, Netherlands Indies, now Indonesia. He obtained a merchant marine engineering certificate in the Netherlands in 1954 and served in the Dutch merchant navy before immigrating to Canada in 1958. In 1966, he received a MSc. degree in Geography from the University of Alberta. He established the map library of the U of A and was its map librarian until 1973, when he came to work with the National Archives of Canada in Ottawa where he was for fifteen years Chief, Document Control Section, in the map division (National Map Collection then). He completed his Ph.D in Geography at the University of Utrecht in 1976. At the NMC he designed and implemented the cataloguing and indexing system for maps. In 1987 he was asked to establish the National Archives of Canada's Office of Descriptive Standards and became its first Senior Archival Descriptive Standards Officer. He represented the Archives at the Bureau of Canadian Archivists for different projects. He retired from the National Archives of Canada in 1999. Hugo Stibbe was always extremely active in national and international associations. Within the Association of Canadian Map Libraries and Archives (ACMLA) he was treasurer, vice-president and president, member of the Committee for Standards and Procedures for Map Libraries, of the National Union Catalogue Committee, and of its successor, the Canadian Committee on Bibliographic Control of Cartographic Materials. He organized the Anglo-American Cataloguing Committee for Cartographic Materials which produced Cartographic Materials: A Manual of Interpretation for AACR2, published in 1982 by the Library Association, the Canadian Library Association, and the American Library Association. This publication, a second edition of which was released in June, 2003, is the universally accepted interpretation for standard descriptions of cartographic material in libraries and archives. Through his initiative co-operation with other organizations sharing the same purpose was encouraged. He became active with the International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) where he represented the ACMLA. He later served as chairman of the IFLA Working Group on ISBD(CM) and member of the Working Group on ISBD(G). He chaired the ISBD(CM) which developed the cartographic specifications in UNIMARC; was chairman of the Standing Committee of the Section of Geography and Map Libraries; was secretary of the Division of Special Libraries; and acted as co-ordinator of Section VI, Access to Cartographic Materials of the Manual of Map Curatorship. Archives around the world and the International Council on Archives felt the need for international standardized and automated descriptions since the middle of the 1980s. In 1988 the National Archives of Canada hosted an international meeting on this subject. It concluded that there was a need for international archival descriptive standards and the establishment of a working group on description. Hugo was one of the participants. In 1990 he was asked to develop a statement of principles upon which the standards were to be based. The same year the ICA established the Ad Hoc Commission on Descriptive Standards, and later, in 1996, the Committee on Descriptive Standards, and Hugo was appointed its Secretary and Project Director. He held the position from 1990 to 2000. Hugo's energy and expertise contributed decidedly to the Committee's different projects: the development and publication of the first edition of ISAD(G), the General International Standard Archival Description (1994), and the second, 1999, edition; ISAAR(CPF), the International Standard Archival Authority Record for Corporate Bodies, Persons and Families (1996); the development of guidelines for the translation of the two standards in languages other than English; the compilation of a bibliography of the two standards and of citation of articles which mention the standards; co-operation with IFLA for the design and eventual implementation of an international standard archival authority code similar to the ISBN and ISSN numbers; the planning with the Society of American Archivists regarding the development of an EAD (Encoded Archival Description) for contextual information associated with archival creators and the revision of EAD to conform with ISAD(G); and finally the development of guidelines for an archival finding aid typology and for standardization of finding aids. Hugo was directly involved in the development of the two standards. Last April, Christine Nougaret, a former colleague of Hugo's on the Committee, wrote how significant his contribution had been: "Hugo was one of the linchpins in the development of the ISAD(G) and ISAAR(CPF) standards, his experience with archives and library descriptive standards enabled him to focus discussions toward one goal, i.e., the timely production of good international standards acceptable to all archival traditions ...this success is due, in large part, to Hugo's rigour and determination and his ability at leading his flock without ever going off course, all this with humour, finesse and kindness." Throughout his career Hugo published and lectured extensively on automated description, and cartographic archives. His former colleagues at the National Archives of Canada were deeply distressed last Autumn at the news that he was suffering from an illness which would only leave him some months to live. Those who visited him in the last weeks were welcomed with the same kindness and serenity he had always demonstrated in the past. Earlier in June Gerald Stone said "Above and beyond his specific accomplishments, Hugo is a wonderful colleague and friend, of deep personal integrity, committment, and sincerity, and whose warmth, inclusiveness, and good humour served as an excellent role model and mentor." On learning of his illness the International Council on Archives expressed terrible sadness at the situation. Hugo's passing is a great loss, a moment of sorrow which makes us realize even more the value of the man gone. Louis Cardinal Ottawa This e-mail message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to The National Archives. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return e-mail immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of The National Archives are neither given nor endorsed by it. _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl, libergdc-dg@bravo.nls.uk, dach-karthist@library2.ethz.ch, lis-maps@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [MapHist] Eva G.R. Taylor Annual Lecture: 2003 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:03:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new

The Eva G.R. Taylor Annual Lecture for 2003 will take place at 18.30 hours on Tuesday 14 October in The Ondaatje Theatre, Royal Geographical Society (with IBG), 1 Kensington Gore, London SW7 2AR.  The Lecturer will be Professor Corradino Astengo of the Istituto di Geografia, Università di Genova, who will speak on 'Mediterranean portolan charts of the 14th to 17th century'.  There will be a small exhibition relating to the subject in display cases outside the New Map Room.  

 

Professor Astengo, an authority on this type of charting, covers a subject close to Professor Taylor's interests in navigation.  His Elenco preliminare di carte ed atlanti nautici manoscritti : eseguiti nell'area mediterranea nel periodo 1500-1700 e conservati presso enti pubblici  (Genova : Istituto di Geografia, Università di Genova, 1996), of 47 pages, is presently the most up-to-date and thorough published listing - with locations - of such materials.  He has contributed the chapter 'The chart tradition in the Mediterranean' for volume 3 'Cartography in the European Renaissance' of the multi-volume and continuing 'The History of Cartography Project'.  This Project is based at the Department of Geography, University of Wisconsin, Madison and, since 1987, two volumes (in four books) have been published by University of Chicago Press of Chicago and London.   They continue to be under the general editorship of Professor David Woodward FRGS, recipient in 2002 of the RGS-IBG's Murchison Award "in recognition of seminal publications on the history of cartography".

 

From 17.30 in the New Map Room - which displays one of the two complete exemplars known of Matteo Ricci's 1644 (or later) world map in Chinese - a 'pay bar' (drinks and sandwiches) will be available.  After the Lecture supper will be served in the candle-lit 'Queen Anne'-style Main Hall at a cost of £22.00 for two courses, with two glasses of wine and coffee.  For the supper please book at least one week in advance (stating if a vegetarian meal is required) with Mrs Gabriela Marques by telephone (44-20-7591-3084) or by e-mail (g.marques@rgs.org).

 

 

Francis Herbert (Curator of Maps)

Royal Geographical Society (with Institute of British Geographers)

1 Kensington Gore

LONDON SW7 2AR

 

f.herbert@rgs.org

 

http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'./'Unlocking the Archives']

 

 

 

 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: karrowr@mail.newberry.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 09:57:03 -0500 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Robert Karrow Subject: Re: [MapHist] descriptive standards X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Michael: I'd be happy to have a crack at your questionnaire. Bob Karrow At 10:19 AM 7/2/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Dear all, > >I know many people dislike this type of approach, but I find myself with no >alternative but to use it, so apologies. Those of you who can help me will >do so, and those of you who cannot will hear no more about it! I am a >curator of manuscript maps in the Dept of Manuscripts at the British >Library. I am trying to write a dissertation on descriptive standards for >maps in archival collections and am looking for a cross section of >professional opinion. I have a very short questionnaire (9 straightforward >questions) relating to the nature and use of descriptive standards for map >collections. I will say no more at this time other than to ask that anybody >who is prepared to answer my questions please contact me directly to avoid >disturbing those list members who have no interest. > >Many thanks >Michael St John >michael.stjohn@bl.uk > > >************************************************************************** > >Now exhibiting at the British Library Galleries: > >Painted Labyrinth : the world of the Lindisfarne Gospels > >Until 28 September 2003. Admission Free. > >************************************************************************* > >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the >intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the >postmaster@bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or >copied without the sender's consent. > >The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the >author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The >British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the >author. > >************************************************************************* > >_______________________________________________________________ >MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography >hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. >The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of >the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of >Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for >the views of the author. >List Information: http://www.maphist.info ____________________________________________ Robert W. Karrow, Jr., Curator of Special Collections and Curator of Maps, Roger & Julie Baskes Department of Special Collections, The Newberry Library, 60 W. Walton Street, Chicago, Illinois 60610-7324. Tel: 312-255-3554. FAX: 312-255-3646. E-Mail: KarrowR@newberry.org Our Web Page, including catalog of holdings cataloged since 1978: http://www.newberry.org _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Ed Dahl" To: "MAPHIST (to post)" Subject: [MapHist] Fw: Archive Maps of the Atlas of Canada/Archives de cartes de l'Atlas du Canada Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:21:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: Archive Maps of the Atlas of Canada/Archives de cartes de l'Atlas du Canada

A new section on the Atlas of Canada Web site is bound to enthuse history buffs from coast to coast to coast.  The Archive Maps of Canada, launched July 1st as part of Canada Day celebrations, is a compilation of maps that have been digitally reproduced from previous print collections of the Atlas. 

The 943 maps in the archives are scanned from the original five printed editions, dating back to 1906. Users can explore details contained in these historical maps by zooming in and out, panning or moving the map in various directions, and then downloading or printing the results. The archives also contain the Canadian sector of the International Map of the World series, 1956 to 1987, and the first Glacier Atlas of Canada, 1969 to 1972. 

The Atlas of Canada is collaborating with GeoConnections, a national partnership initiative led by NRCan, to provide Canadians with Internet access to geospatial information — information about the geography, environment and natural resources base of a country.

Visitors can enter the archives through http://atlas.gc.ca and select an edition from the scroll-down menu under “Map Archives”

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Une nouvelle section du site Web de l’Atlas du Canada réjouira les férus d’histoire de tous les coins du pays. Les cartes d’archives lancées le 1er juillet à l’occasion des célébrations de la Fête du Canada sont des reproductions numériques de cartes des collections imprimées de l’Atlas.

Les 943 cartes des archives ont été scannées à partir des cinq éditions originales imprimées, dont la plus ancienne date de 1906. Les utilisateurs peuvent examiner les détails de ces cartes historiques en faisant des zooms avant et arrière ou des panoramiques ou en déplaçant la carte dans diverses directions, pour ensuite télécharger ou imprimer le résultat obtenu. Les archives contiennent aussi la section canadienne de la série des cartes internationales du monde, 1956 à 1987, et le premier Atlas des glaciers du Canada, 1969 à 1972.  

L’Atlas du Canada collabore avec GéoConnexions, un partenariat national dirigé par RNCan dans le but de fournir aux internautes canadiens l’accès à de l’information géospatiale, information sur la géographie, l’environnement et les ressources naturelles d’un pays.
 
 
Claire Gosson
Geographer/Géographe
Atlas of Canada/Atlas du Canada
Natural Resources Canada/Ressources naturelles Canada
Government of Canada/Governement du Canada
615 Booth Street/615 rue Booth
Ottawa, Ontario . K1A OE9
telephone/téléphone: (613) 992-4134
fascimili/télécopieur (613) 947-2410
 
Discover Canada through Maps/Découvrez le  Canada par les cartes
 
 
 
 
 
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Maura O'Connor" To: "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" Subject: RE: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:06:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Nick and Andrew Just to give you a southern hemisphere perspective on the subject, they appear on river pilot charts which were drawn to help navigate Australia's mighty rivers - the Darling and Murray rivers during the nineteenth century. We have a particularly fine example in our collection! Yours sincerely Maura O'Connor Map Curator National Library of Australia CANBERRA ACT 2600 AUSTRALIA Phone : 61 2 6262 1280 Fax : 61 2 6262 1653 Email : moconnor@nla.gov.au > ---------- > From: Nick Pelling[SMTP:incoming@pterodactyl.co.uk] > Reply To: maphist@geog.uu.nl > Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2003 7:40 PM > To: maphist@geog.uu.nl > Subject: RE: [MapHist] Suggested conference topics > > Dear maphisters, > > At 17:31 01/07/2003 +0100, Andrew Cook wrote: > >2) Views of harbours and headlands are present on nautical charts, or in > >accompanying books of sailing directions ('pilots'), for a purpose, as > >coastal recognition to guide the mariner. > > This certainly interests me - but may I please ask if anyone knows of > similar recognition aids on European maps of canals or rivers (and so > depicting views of towns or other local features [perhaps even lodgings, > as > in itineraria?], rather than harbours), pre-1550? > > Even so, I too say "go with the wine"! :-) > > Best wishes, .....Nick Pelling..... > > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: jsk@pop.gamewood.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:27:17 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Joel Kovarsky Subject: [MapHist] presses for history of cartography X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 1. Are you aware of any book or dissertation chronicling the history of the Univ. of Chicago Press involvement in the history of cartography?

2. Extending that, are you aware of any specific publications dealing with the history of those presses most involved with the history of cartography, particularly over the last 50 years? I seem to recall something somewhere dealing with Nico Israel, but it was a short piece, and I can't recall (or find) the source. (There is: Theatrum Orbis Librorum, Liber Amicorum presented to Nico Israel on the occasion of his seventieth birthday)

      I have rummaged through several Google searches, major online book search engines, and Map History (site maintained by Tony Campbell). Thank you, in advance, for any assistance.         Joel Kovarsky X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] Book on Maury Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:58:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
   I've just finished TRACKS IN THE SEA: MATTHEW FONTAINE MAURY AND THE MAPPING OF THE OCEANS by Chester Hearn (International Marine/McGraw-Hill, 2002) and think a few folk on the list might enjoy it.  It is a biography of Maury emphasising more what he did than how he did it and noting all the political intrigues surrounding him, but I found it worthwhile.
 
         JBP
 
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] Book on Maury Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:34:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new

Jerry (and others - like Alice in NYPL - here's fuller details *with ISBN*!):-

 

Tracks in the sea : Matthew Fontaine Maury and the mapping of the oceans / Chester G. Hearn. - 1st ed. - Camden ME [etc.] : International Marine/McGraw-Hill, 2002. - ix,278p. : ill. (including col. on dust-jacket), maps, portr. ; 24 cm. - Notes: p.249-273. - Portr. include those of subject and his family, A.D. Bache, etc. - ISBN 0-07-136826-4

 

Francis

f.herbert@rgs.org

http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives']

 

-----Original Message-----
From: J.B. Post [mailto:jbpost@netreach.net]
Sent: 03 July 2003 18:59
To: maphist@geog.uu.nl
Subject: [MapHist] Book on Maury

 

   I've just finished TRACKS IN THE SEA: MATTHEW FONTAINE MAURY AND THE MAPPING OF THE OCEANS by Chester Hearn (International Marine/McGraw-Hill, 2002) and think a few folk on the list might enjoy it.  It is a biography of Maury emphasising more what he did than how he did it and noting all the political intrigues surrounding him, but I found it worthwhile.

 

         JBP

 

 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 09:56:55 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: [MapHist] Photos ICHC 2003 Cambridge-Portland X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Since several people asked me for the photos of the 20th International Conference on the History of Cartography in Cambridge, Mass., and Portland, Maine, 15-20 June. They are already available on the web, but I have not made the announcement because the report is not complete yet. But, since so many ask, here is the url for the unfinished conference report http://cartography.geog.uu.nl/ichc/2003.html Click on Photos in the navigation menu on the left and you get the photo-report. All photos are downloadable (about 700 Kb to 1 Mb per photo), you may use them free but in publication there should be an acknowledgement like: Photo: Peter van der Krogt Enjoy! Peter YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Dr Peter van der Krogt Map Historian, Explokart Research Program Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht P.O. Box 80.115 3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands e-mail: peter@maphist.nl Homepage: MapHist: Genealogy: Elementymology: Columbus Monuments: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 08:01:29 -0400 From: Bert Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Photos ICHC 2003 Cambridge-Portland X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Peter Just made my way through all of them. Outstanding as always, and very useful. Thanks. Bert Peter van der Krogt wrote: > Dear > > Since several people asked me for the photos of the 20th International > Conference on the History of Cartography in Cambridge, Mass., and > Portland, Maine, 15-20 June. They are already available on the web, > but I have not made the announcement because the report is not > complete yet. > > But, since so many ask, here is the url for the unfinished conference > report > > http://cartography.geog.uu.nl/ichc/2003.html > > Click on Photos in the navigation menu on the left and you get the > photo-report. > All photos are downloadable (about 700 Kb to 1 Mb per photo), you may > use them free but in publication there should be an acknowledgement > like: Photo: Peter van der Krogt > > Enjoy! > > Peter > > > > YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY > Dr Peter van der Krogt > Map Historian, Explokart Research Program > Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht > P.O. Box 80.115 > 3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands > e-mail: peter@maphist.nl > Homepage: > MapHist: > Genealogy: > Elementymology: > Columbus Monuments: > > YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Barber, Peter" To: "Maphist (E-mail)" Subject: [MapHist] FW: old maps lost from Argentina's National Library Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:32:31 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new For those who have not already heard, the following message may be of (depressing) interest. Peter Barber ----- Forwarded message from Adan Griego ----- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Adan Griego Reply-To: Adan Griego Subject: old maps lost from Argentina's National Library Descubren robo de mapas antiguos en biblioteca argentina EFE El Universal Buenos Aires, Argentina Miércoles 02 de julio de 2003 Reporta la prensa que la Biblioteca Nacional de Argentina ha perdido más de 120 documentos de los siglos XVI al XVIII, algunos valorados en 50 mil dólares 09:26 La Biblioteca Nacional de Argentina ha perdido más de 120 mapas de los siglos XVI al XVIII de sus fondos, algunos valorados en 50 mil dólares, a causa de la acción de los ladrones, informó hoy la prensa. La falta fue revelada por un arqueo realizado los últimos días por orden de la dirección de la biblioteca a raíz de que un supuesto "investigador privado" fuera sorprendido el pasado miércoles arrancando láminas de valiosos atlas que se conservan en la llamada Mapoteca. Horacio Salas, director de la Biblioteca Nacional, dispuso también que se cierre al público la Mapoteca y de la Sala del Tesoro, donde se guardan los ejemplares más antiguos. Cuando fue sorprendido "in fraganti" el "investigador" Luis Alberto Videla tenía en su poder ocho mapas que simplemente había arrancado de libros como "Il gazzetiere americano" y "Theatrum orbis terrarum", los cuales estaba consultando en la Sala del Tesoro. Videla fue detenido y puesto a disposición judicial y en su casa se hallaron 18 grabados antiguos cuya procedencia está siendo investigada. El arqueo realizado tras su detención reveló que algunos de los atlas mutilados por los ladrones fueron consultados por Videla con anterioridad, informó "La Nación". "De un libro de 1764 fueron arrancados más de 40 mapas", dijo Salas al diario "Clarín". Tanto Salas como expertos en libros antiguos descartaron que el faltante descubierto pueda deberse a la acción de una sola persona y opinaron que hay una mafia o red dedicada al robo sistemático del patrimonio de la Biblioteca Nacional. El director de la entidad, que asumió el cargo hace dos semanas, denunció las graves carencias de la Biblioteca Nacional en materia de seguridad y pidió ayuda al Estado y la sociedad para evitar que siga la depredación del patrimonio cultural. Actualmente la Biblioteca solo cuenta con 14 empleados para velar por la seguridad en un edificio de 40 mil metros cuadrados, agregó. En abril pasado, la prensa se hizo eco de una denuncia según la cual la principal biblioteca estatal de Argentina no tiene un registro del número de obras que alberga y sus depósitos son inadecuados para preservar libros. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adan Griego Curator for Latin American, Mexican American & Iberian Collections Green Library-FLAC Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-6004 (650) 723-3150 / 725-1068 (fax) griego@sulmail.stanford.edu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ----- End forwarded message ----- ************************************************************************** Now exhibiting at the British Library Galleries: Painted Labyrinth : the world of the Lindisfarne Gospels Until 28 September 2003. Admission Free. ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 18:07:10 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of Peter van der Krogt ) Subject: Re: [MapHist] Photos ICHC 2003 Cambridge-Portland X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Not distributed automatically because the message had an attachment (vcard). From: Karen Pinto Dear Map-histers, It is with sadness that I look upon Peter's pictures. Those Maine lobsters look simply scrumptious! And the corn...mmmm... How I wish I could have been there. I had intended to continue my discussion of medieval Islamic maps with a look at the world maps. (So far I have examined the Mediterranean and Maghrib maps with the group.) But when I went to the conference website to apply I discovered that the dates had been pushed back from the customary 1st week of July to mid-June. Understandable given the North American unvi. schedule. Those on a European univ. schedule have a harder time. I recently moved to the American University of Beirut to take up an Asst. Prof. position. (I will not wax on about the virtues of Beirut and living in the Middle East--inspite of the present international crisis, or perhaps because of it?--but would be happy to respond to individual queries. One thing though, inspite of all the wonderful places to visit in close proximity, the amazing food, the full-time nanny, the corn here leaves much to be desired.) Anyway, all this to say I look forward to the next ICHC and hope that it returns to its customary time slot. Here we do not end the semester until the 3rd week of June. Plus this year my colleague and office-mate, Karla Mallette, organized a conference on Mediterranean Studies: Identities and Tensions from Jun 19-21. I felt obligated to participate. Kay Ebel attended too. We look forward to the proceedings of the conference, especially the panel on Ottoman Cartography and David Roxborough's paper on Pilgrimage Maps. Since I discussed in detail with him my work on Pilgrim maps when we met while conducting doctoral research in Istanbul, I am keen to read about his ideas on this topic. David finished an excellent dissertation on Safavid album collections (calligraphy and miniatures) and does marvelous work now at Harvard. In order to expand the inter-disciplinary horizons of Islamic history we need more contibutions like this. I cannot wait to read Palmira Brummett's paper. Other than this I am looking forward to the discussion about the conference that I hope will commence soon. The T-shirts look really nice. best wishes to all of you especially those that I missed in person, Karen _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "tony campbell" To: "*MapHist" Subject: [MapHist] The 2005 ICHC Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:33:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Karen Pinto [good to hear from you, Karen!] hopes that the next ICHC will be in July. Indeed it will. I hope she and others will already bookmark the website for ICHC 2005 < http://lazarus.elte.hu/~zoltorok/ichc2005.htm >. This is early days and yet there is already a surprising amount of information on Zsolt's attractive and informative site. This might be the appropriate moment to comment on the recent interesting thread initiated by J.B. Post about possible paper topics for the next conference. By following the Slide Show invitation and clicking on 'Conference Themes' you can already see the formal topics that are planned for Budapest. The topics for papers that fall into the 'any other aspect of cartographic history' category are entirely at the discretion of those who submit abstracts, or who decide to put together a paper session with like-minded colleagues. Tony Campbell Chairman, Imago Mundi Ltd (and international co-ordinator of the ICHC series) **************************************** t.campbell@ockendon.clara.co.uk Imago Mundi c/o 76 Ockendon Road London N1 3NW UK Phone: 020 7359 6477 International: +44 20 7359 6477 Web site: http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/maps/imago.html ******************************************* _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Catherine Delano-Smith" To: "maphist" Subject: [MapHist] P.D.A. Harvey honoured by the British Academy Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:49:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new I am sure MapHisters will be pleased to learn that Paul Harvey, Professor Emeritus of Medieval History at the University of Durham, has been made a Fellow of the British Academy. This is a great and rare personal honour ( the more so as I understand Paul's Fellowship is one of the highest offered by the Academy), a fully merited one--as any map historian will happily agree--and one which can only considerably advance the standing of map history (only one of Paul's several academic interests) in the academic world at large. Well done, Paul. And carry on publishing on maps! Catherine Dr Catherine Delano-Smith EDITOR IMAGO MUNDI The International Journal for the History of Cartography 285 Nether Street London N3 1PD U.K. Please see IMAGO MUNDI's homepage: _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "R & P Betz" To: Subject: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:10:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new I have a question regarding the use of the term "states" or "variants" to describe woodcut maps. To date, I have been able to identify 10 "states" of Sebastian Munster's map of Africa; that is, textual variations to Munster's insertable metal type for placenames in a similar manner to what Burden and Kershaw did for Munster's New World map. They use the term "states". Others have told me that "states" strictly apply to only copperplates. Is there a generally recognized English word to describe changes to a woodcut map? Any thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated. Sincerely, Richard betzmaps@earthlink.net _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: daniel@shapero.com X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-19.messagelabs.com!1057598915!122721 From: Daniel Crouch To: "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" Subject: RE: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:28:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Richard, I have always taken the term state simply to mean the 'state' or the particular form of the image-bearing material in relation to changes made from the initial design. It can be applied equally to wood, copper, stone or linoleum. See Bamber Gascoine's 'How to Identify Prints' for a good basic discussion of terminology. Having said that, alterations of dropped-in moveable type to a woodcut map would not constitute an alteration to the 'state' of the woodcut - the woodcut itself, presumably, remaining unaltered. A printseller would probably refer to such changes as State x, variant y. I have also seen catalogue descriptions written along the lines of 'with the alternate lettering' or 'lettered 'x''. I hope this is of some help. Kind regards, Daniel Crouch -- Shapero Gallery 24 Bruton Street, LONDON, W1J 6QQ T: +44 (0)20 7491 0330 F: + 44 (0)20 7629 5324 M: +44 (0)7766 751 391 E: daniel@shapero.com W: www.shapero.com -----Original Message----- From: R & P Betz [mailto:betzmaps@earthlink.net] Sent: 07 July 2003 18:11 To: maphist@geog.UU.NL Subject: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps I have a question regarding the use of the term "states" or "variants" to describe woodcut maps. To date, I have been able to identify 10 "states" of Sebastian Munster's map of Africa; that is, textual variations to Munster's insertable metal type for placenames in a similar manner to what Burden and Kershaw did for Munster's New World map. They use the term "states". Others have told me that "states" strictly apply to only copperplates. Is there a generally recognized English word to describe changes to a woodcut map? Any thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated. Sincerely, Richard betzmaps@earthlink.net _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 13:29:30 -0400 From: overlee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Richard: "Tooley's Handbook for Map Collectors" which includes STATE under Edition, reads: "There is no general agreement on the terms Edition, Issue, State and impression. They all mean a variation. ...The simple and important point is to note the variation, what it is called is relatively unimportant." Hope this proves helpful. Martin Torodash R & P Betz wrote: > I have a question regarding the use of the term "states" or "variants" to > describe woodcut maps. To date, I have been able to identify 10 "states" of > Sebastian Munster's map of Africa; that is, textual variations to Munster's > insertable metal type for placenames in a similar manner to what Burden and > Kershaw did for Munster's New World map. They use the term "states". > Others have told me that "states" strictly apply to only copperplates. Is > there a generally recognized English word to describe changes to a > woodcut map? Any thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated. > > Sincerely, Richard > betzmaps@earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Jeremy Crampton" To: Subject: [MapHist] Paullin Atlas 1932 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:27:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new I would like to enquire of the list whether a study has ever been made of the Paullin Atlas of Historical Geography of the United States (1932) edited by J.K. Wright? If there are any studies of this atlas I would be grateful to hear about them. Second, I would like to know if any work has been done on the cartographic work of J.K. Wright? That is, an analysis of what he was studying as far as maps go, especially in his earlier work. I have the Bowden book, a couple of obituaries and the recent Koelsch piece in the Biobibliography series edited by Geof Martin. Many thanks, __ Jeremy Crampton 404 651-1763 http://monarch.gsu.edu/jcrampton/ _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:37:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps From: Helen Glazer To: Maphist X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new On 7/7/03 1:10 PM, "R & P Betz" wrote: > I have a question regarding the use of the term "states" or "variants" to > describe woodcut maps. To date, I have been able to identify 10 "states" of > Sebastian Munster's map of Africa; that is, textual variations to Munster's > insertable metal type for placenames in a similar manner to what Burden and > Kershaw did for Munster's New World map. They use the term "states". > Others have told me that "states" strictly apply to only copperplates. Is > there a generally recognized English word to describe changes to a > woodcut map? Any thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated. In printmaking, "state" apply to any type of printmaking process, not just copperplates. Since a map is a type of print, I don't see why it would be any different when applied to maps. The Getty's Art and Architecture Thesaurus says the word state, in the sense of creative process, is used "for the variant stages of development of graphic and textual works." Here's a good explanation from ArtLex.com, an online dictionary of art terminology: "State - The point at which a graphic artist makes a number of prints from his block, plate, stone or screen. If he alters his print design at all, this first series of impressions is called the first state. A second series, made after the design changes, is a second state. This can go on indefinitely until a final state is produced." --Helen Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Helen Glazer, Creative Director George Glazer Gallery Antique Globes, Maps & Prints http://www.georgeglazer.com helen@georgeglazer.com Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] Paullin Atlas 1932 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:10:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Jeremy: Only a review by "A.G.O." [i.e. Alan G. Ogilvie] on pp.365-367 in 'The Geographical Journal' (London : RGS), April 1933, 81(4) comes to hand as being one of sufficient length (and 'authority') to look into. There could well be other such reviews, but most of our periodicals are still inaccessible. Has Harry Steward anything to offer regarding Wright's cartographic work? As Wright had considerable connections with Crone and others (e.g. Arthur Hinks) here at the RGS, our Archives may have some useful and pertinent correspondence. PS: and don't remind me about your 'Potlotmy' map! Francis f.herbert@rgs.org http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives'] -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Crampton [mailto:jcrampton@gsu.edu] Sent: 07 July 2003 21:28 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Paullin Atlas 1932 I would like to enquire of the list whether a study has ever been made of the Paullin Atlas of Historical Geography of the United States (1932) edited by J.K. Wright? If there are any studies of this atlas I would be grateful to hear about them. Second, I would like to know if any work has been done on the cartographic work of J.K. Wright? That is, an analysis of what he was studying as far as maps go, especially in his earlier work. I have the Bowden book, a couple of obituaries and the recent Koelsch piece in the Biobibliography series edited by Geof Martin. Many thanks, __ Jeremy Crampton 404 651-1763 http://monarch.gsu.edu/jcrampton/ _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:24:12 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] world proportional map Cc: renato.martucci@tin.it X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Non-member submission from [Renato Martucci ] (I am almost sure Renato is asking for the Peters' projection, Peters claimed that his map was proportional to surface, but it was not. I don' t have my literature here at home, but maybe somebody can give some information about it? - Peter van der Krogt) Dear maphist, I'm searching a picture with a map I got many years ago in Geneva at the Unesco and that now is lost. The planisphere showed the world with a real surface proportions So the continents looked different from the usual becouse the surface on the paper was really proportional to the surface of the region on the earth Can you give me a reference to get this map? I need this reference for academic reason, though cartography is not my branch thanks -- Regards Renato Martucci mailto:renato.martucci@tin.it Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 From: "George de Greef" To: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:28:22 +0200 Subject: Re: [MapHist] world proportional map Reply-To: george@computamaps.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: george@computamaps.com X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new For interesting details of Peters projection, see: http://www.webcom.com/~bright/petermap.html For a more impartial point of view, see: http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa030201a.htm Regards, George -------------------------------------------- George de Greef, ComputaMaps Private Bag X20, Constantia 7848, South Africa tel: 27-21-794 0799, fax: 27-21-794 4671 cell: 083-3250762 e-mail: george@computamaps.com Manufacturers of digital maps and imagery http://www.computamaps.com X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Cc: renato.martucci@tin.it Subject: RE: [MapHist] world proportional map Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:44:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Renato Martucci, If, as Peter van der Krogt suggests, it was another manifestation (or 'infestation' as some critics would write) of the Peters Projection world map you will not find it difficult to locate an image of it. But I question whether the map you saw was issued, in fact, by UNESCO: it was more likely under the aegis of UNICEF (we have here a version published in London by the UK Committee for UNICEF in 1983 (copyright Akademische Verlagsanstalt, Vaduz). By chance, should you wish to read more on the man and 'his' map projection, 'The Cartographic Journal' (British Cartographic Society, ISSN 0008-7041), June 2003, 40(1), 51-67, contains a whole section entitled 'Arno Peters : the man and his map' of contributions by various authors. Francis Herbert (Curator of Maps, RGS-IBG) f.herbert@rgs.org http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives'] -----Original Message----- From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl [mailto:owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl] Sent: 08 July 2003 15:24 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Cc: renato.martucci@tin.it Subject: [MapHist] world proportional map Non-member submission from [Renato Martucci ] (I am almost sure Renato is asking for the Peters' projection, Peters claimed that his map was proportional to surface, but it was not. I don' t have my literature here at home, but maybe somebody can give some information about it? - Peter van der Krogt) Dear maphist, I'm searching a picture with a map I got many years ago in Geneva at the Unesco and that now is lost. The planisphere showed the world with a real surface proportions So the continents looked different from the usual becouse the surface on the paper was really proportional to the surface of the region on the earth Can you give me a reference to get this map? I need this reference for academic reason, though cartography is not my branch thanks -- Regards Renato Martucci mailto:renato.martucci@tin.it Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: oddens@pop.geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:49:01 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Roelof Oddens Subject: Re: [MapHist] world proportional map X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new In my collection I have an Unesco map [1983] in the Peters projection (43 x 66 cm). The map was spread house to house in The Netherlands for fundraising.
My first "Peters" world map: Die Länder der Erde in Flächentreuer Darstellung. - München : Universum-Verlag, [1976]. - 74 x 115 cm.
Also there is an atlas with all maps in the Peter's projection:
Peters atlas of the world / Arno Peters ; cartography: Kümmerly + Frey Bern (base maps), Oxford Cartographers (topographic and thematic maps). - Harlow : Longman, 1989. - 1 atlas, 230 p. : in kleur ; 35 x 25 cm. - Cover title: Peters atlas of the world : the earth in true proportion for the first time.
with as a supplement:
Map of the world : Peters projection / Oxford Cartographers. - Schaal [ca. 1:25.000.000 op de evenaar]. One square centimetre on the map = 123.000 square kilometres in nature. - Oxford : Oxford Cartographers, 1989. - 1 kaart : in kleur ; 52 x 81 cm, gev. 30 x 21 cm.

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At 16:24 8-7-2003 +0200, you wrote:

Non-member submission from [Renato Martucci <renato.martucci@tin.it>]

(I am almost sure Renato is asking for the Peters' projection, Peters claimed that his map was proportional to surface, but it was not. I don' t have my literature here at home, but maybe somebody can give some information about it? - Peter van der Krogt)

Dear maphist,

  I'm searching a picture with a map I got many years ago in
  Geneva at the Unesco  and that now is lost.
  The planisphere showed the world with a real surface
  proportions
  So the continents looked different from the usual becouse
  the surface on the paper was really proportional to the
  surface of the region on the earth

  Can you give me a reference to get this map?

  I need this  reference for academic reason, though
  cartography is not my branch

  thanks

--
Regards
 Renato Martucci                         mailto:renato.martucci@tin.it


Peter van der Krogt
List-owner MapHist
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] world proportional map To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002 From: dyallen@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:52:36 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on nmta.cc.sunysb.edu/DoIT(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 07/08/2003 10:52:38 AM X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new It is almost certainly the Peters Projection, which had some sort of sponsorship from the United Nations. For information and an image of the map see: http://www.webcom.com/~bright/table.html David Allen Map Librarian Stony Brook University _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: oddens@pop.geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:54:32 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Roelof Oddens Subject: RE: [MapHist] world proportional map X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Francis is right. I was to fast. In my message I also have a 1983 map of the "Stichting Nederlands Comité UNICEF" (and not Unesco as I mentioned). Roelof Oddens At 15:44 8-7-2003 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Renato Martucci, > >If, as Peter van der Krogt suggests, it was another manifestation (or >'infestation' as some critics would write) of the Peters Projection world >map you will not find it difficult to locate an image of it. But I question >whether the map you saw was issued, in fact, by UNESCO: it was more likely >under the aegis of UNICEF (we have here a version published in London by the >UK Committee for UNICEF in 1983 (copyright Akademische Verlagsanstalt, >Vaduz). > >By chance, should you wish to read more on the man and 'his' map projection, >'The Cartographic Journal' (British Cartographic Society, ISSN 0008-7041), >June 2003, 40(1), 51-67, contains a whole section entitled 'Arno Peters : >the man and his map' of contributions by various authors. > >Francis Herbert (Curator of Maps, RGS-IBG) >f.herbert@rgs.org >http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives'] > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl [mailto:owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl] >Sent: 08 July 2003 15:24 >To: maphist@geog.uu.nl >Cc: renato.martucci@tin.it >Subject: [MapHist] world proportional map > >Non-member submission from [Renato Martucci ] > >(I am almost sure Renato is asking for the Peters' projection, Peters >claimed that his map was proportional to surface, but it was not. I don' t >have my literature here at home, but maybe somebody can give some >information about it? - Peter van der Krogt) > >Dear maphist, > > I'm searching a picture with a map I got many years ago in > Geneva at the Unesco and that now is lost. > The planisphere showed the world with a real surface > proportions > So the continents looked different from the usual becouse > the surface on the paper was really proportional to the > surface of the region on the earth > > Can you give me a reference to get this map? > > I need this reference for academic reason, though > cartography is not my branch > > thanks > >-- >Regards > Renato Martucci mailto:renato.martucci@tin.it > > >Peter van der Krogt >List-owner MapHist Roelof P. Oddens Map Curator Faculty of Geographical Sciences Utrecht University P.O. Box 80.115 3508 TC Utrecht The Netherlands tel. +31 30 253 4401 r.oddens@geog.uu.nl Visit Oddens' Bookmarks (database with 20,000+ cartography links): http://oddens.geog.uu.nl/ Homepage Map Collection: http://kaartenzaal.geog.uu.nl/ _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:58:53 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: [MapHist] Fwd: Re: query Palurèze Cc: caruanar@acay.com.au X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From Australia I received the following question: "Hello, I was wondering Peter if you may have heard of this french name for a place ? Au midi, du Lagos aux bords du Palurèze, Any help is appreciated" I asked for the context and date of this text, and the answer was: >Hello Peter > >the year is 1801 > >some more of the surrounding text > >Du Celte méconnu trop ingrats successeurs , >Ont partagé l'Europe à leurs nombreuses soeurs. >Au nord , Danois , Saxon , Anglais, Belge et >Batave , >Le Sarmate étonné de se sentir esclave , >Tout sait , tout lit, écrit la langue du Germain. > > Au midi, du Lagos aux bords du Paluréze, >De Gex au Capitole où chante le Romain , >Tout sait, tout lit, écrit notre langue française. > Ces colosses jumeaux vont se donner la main. > Le magique pouvoir de la typographie , >Sur les monts , sur les mers, jettant un pont hardi, >Ne fait bientôt qu'un sol du nord et du midi. > >kindest regards > >>>Richard Caruana >>> >>>Australia Any ideas? 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The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Archival description of maps To: MAPS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU, maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002 From: dyallen@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:13:42 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on nmta.cc.sunysb.edu/DoIT(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 07/08/2003 11:13:45 AM X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new The survey recently announced on the map listservs by Michael St. John has stirred my interest in what archivists are doing to describe maps. I see that the most recent edition of Procter's Manual of Archival Description includes instructions for describing maps down to the individual sheet level, but I have not actually seen any examples of map description/cataloging done according to archival standards. I vaguely recall hearing out that a project along these lines is being carried out at the Public Record Office and perhaps elsewhere in Britain. I would very much appreciate it if somebody could point me to some examples of archival description of individual maps. David Allen Map Librarian Stony Brook University _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "StJohn, Michael" To: "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" , MAPS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: [MapHist] Archival description of maps Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:36:36 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new I'm sure it's not the done thing to point to one's own work, but, well, I have spent many months cataloguing in excess of 550 maps and related papers of the Spencer family's holdings to individual item/map level. I must stress that I am not pointing to these descriptions as exemplars of cataloguing, and I would be the first to state that the descriptions are not perfect (is there such a thing as a perfect description? That can be the subject of somebody else's dissertation perhaps, I've enough on my plate!). Nor do the descriptions follow any international standard (they meet the BL's in-house rules), but they are an example of what David is looking for. Go to http://molcat.bl.uk/msscat/INDEX.ASP, and do a Description search on any number between Add 78108 and 78155 to see my efforts. Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: dyallen@notes.cc.sunysb.edu [mailto:dyallen@notes.cc.sunysb.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:14 PM > To: MAPS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; maphist@geog.uu.nl > Subject: [MapHist] Archival description of maps > > > The survey recently announced on the map listservs by Michael > St. John has > stirred my interest in what archivists are doing to describe > maps. I see > that the most recent edition of Procter's Manual of Archival > Description > includes instructions for describing maps down to the individual sheet > level, but I have not actually seen any examples of map > description/cataloging done according to archival standards. > I vaguely > recall hearing out that a project along these lines is being > carried out at > the Public Record Office and perhaps elsewhere in Britain. I > would very > much appreciate it if somebody could point me to some > examples of archival > description of individual maps. > > David Allen > Map Librarian > Stony Brook University > > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:38:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [MapHist] Archival description of maps From: Helen Glazer To: Maphist X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new The Getty Research Institute's online Art and Architecture Thesaurus might be a good resource, for figuring out what terminology to use in descriptions. I just checked and there are 83 terms in there for different types of maps. They also indicate which are in use in England or America, provide a little graphic diagram with a hierarchy (e.g. An airline chart is a subset of aeronautical charts, which is a subset of navigation charts, etc.) and cite further references for the term in question. http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabulary/aat/ Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Helen Glazer, Creative Director George Glazer Gallery Antique Globes, Maps & Prints http://www.georgeglazer.com helen@georgeglazer.com Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dyallen@notes.cc.sunysb.edu [mailto:dyallen@notes.cc.sunysb.edu] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:14 PM >> To: MAPS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; maphist@geog.uu.nl >> Subject: [MapHist] Archival description of maps >> >> >> The survey recently announced on the map listservs by Michael >> St. John has >> stirred my interest in what archivists are doing to describe >> maps. 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The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:59:29 +0200 X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "From" header. From: Dr.Zsolt Török Organization: Dept.of Cartography, ELTE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Richard, I second Helen (although I am not a native English speaker): the term 'state' seems more relevant for cartobibliographic description, even if woodcut maps are usually considered to have been printed from unaltered blocks. Coolie Verner, in his foundation article on cartobibliographical description (Carto-Bibliographical Description: The Analysis of Variants in Maps Printed from Copperplates. In: The American Cartographer, Vol.1, No.1, 1974, pp.77-87) even says that ''variant state' should not be used with reference to maps'. Despite the title, the paper refers to 'states' of woodcut maps as well (see p.85). Comparing to copperplates, the alterations of wood blocks have received much less attention in literature, the Münster maps are among the few exceptions. (e.g.: Harold L. Ruland: A Survey of the Double-page Maps in Thirty-five Editions of the Cosmographia Universalis 1544-1628 of Sebastian Münster and in his Editions of Ptolemy's Geographia 1540-1552. In: Imago Mundi, No.16, 1962, pp. 84-97.) The printing blocks were apparently relatively stable and the printers/artists usually did not make changes- except for the cases when they had to do so- for any reason. The major factor causing changes could be the combination of the woodcut with metal types or stereotypes, or the printed text set around/in the map. The Latin and German editions of the world map in the famous Nuremberg Chronicle (1493) may illustrate this (Tony Campbell: The Earliest Printed Maps... 219. At the same time they demonstrate the problem of terminology: the two states of the map are considered to be identical, while the text outside the map borders makes the difference between the prints... Personal experience: as a traditional map maker I had to change a woodblock when I printed my new edition of the Schedel's map in 1995. After some prints, because of too high printing pressure, some woodcut letters cracked (sorry...we all make mistakes...). I cut the damaged part out and put a tiny plug into the hole and re-cut the letters. Consequently, the next impressions from the block should be described as State 2 by future cartobibliographers... However, the results of the subtle amendment can not be seen on the prints ... so they will have to read the ARCHIVES of MapHist! (http://www.maphist.nl/) Regards, Zsolt map and globe maker http://lazarus.elte.hu/~zoltorok/Cartartweb/cartart_maps.htm PS: Richard, are you sure that inserted metal types were used for printing the place names on the Münster maps? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::-) Helen Glazer wrote: > > On 7/7/03 1:10 PM, "R & P Betz" wrote: > > > I have a question regarding the use of the term "states" or "variants" to > > describe woodcut maps. To date, I have been able to identify 10 "states" of > > Sebastian Munster's map of Africa; that is, textual variations to Munster's > > insertable metal type for placenames in a similar manner to what Burden and > > Kershaw did for Munster's New World map. They use the term "states". > > Others have told me that "states" strictly apply to only copperplates. Is > > there a generally recognized English word to describe changes to a > > woodcut map? Any thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated. > > In printmaking, "state" apply to any type of printmaking process, not just > copperplates. Since a map is a type of print, I don't see why it would be > any different when applied to maps. > > The Getty's Art and Architecture Thesaurus says the word state, in the sense > of creative process, is used "for the variant stages of development of > graphic and textual works." > > Here's a good explanation from ArtLex.com, an online dictionary of art > terminology: > > "State - The point at which a graphic artist makes a number of prints from > his block, plate, stone or screen. If he alters his print design at all, > this first series of impressions is called the first state. A second series, > made after the design changes, is a second state. This can go on > indefinitely until a final state is produced." > > --Helen > > Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø > > Helen Glazer, Creative Director > George Glazer Gallery > Antique Globes, Maps & Prints > http://www.georgeglazer.com > helen@georgeglazer.com > > Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø Ø > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:45:01 +0200 X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "From" header. From: Dr.Zsolt Török Organization: Dept.of Cartography, ELTE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] ICHC 2005 wine proposal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear All, Some of the many participants of the wonderful 2003 Conference took the opportunity in Boston or Portland to talk to me personally and suggest topics for our Budapest meeting. As the proposed conference topics could not cover the whole range of fields of interest of map historians, the Organizers would welcome any more suggestions or comments regarding possible topics. We also encourage anyone who thinks his/her proposal attracts other, contributing map historians to organize a session and submit a complete proposal! I follow the discussion on MapHist and am here to answer your questions regarding the Conference. Personal comment: JB's viticultural cartography could be the topic for a very promising session - followed by the tasting of fine Hungarian wine... For more (pictorial) material please, visit regularly our extending web site at: http://lazarus.elte.hu/~zoltorok/ichc2005.htm Zsolt Thank you, Tony for promoting the ICHC 2005 web pages! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: tony campbell wrote: > > Karen Pinto [good to hear from you, Karen!] hopes that the next ICHC will be > in July. Indeed it will. I hope she and others will already bookmark the > website for ICHC 2005 < http://lazarus.elte.hu/~zoltorok/ichc2005.htm >. > This is early days and yet there is already a surprising amount of > information on Zsolt's attractive and informative site. > > This might be the appropriate moment to comment on the recent interesting > thread initiated by J.B. Post about possible paper topics for the next > conference. By following the Slide Show invitation and clicking on > 'Conference Themes' you can already see the formal topics that are planned > for Budapest. The topics for papers that fall into the 'any other aspect of > cartographic history' category are entirely at the discretion of those who > submit abstracts, or who decide to put together a paper session with > like-minded colleagues. > > Tony Campbell > Chairman, Imago Mundi Ltd (and international co-ordinator of the ICHC > series) > **************************************** > t.campbell@ockendon.clara.co.uk > > Imago Mundi > c/o 76 Ockendon Road > London N1 3NW > UK > > Phone: 020 7359 6477 International: +44 20 7359 6477 > Web site: http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/maps/imago.html > ******************************************* > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] Mappish events? Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:06:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
   From 12 July to 28 July, my wife and I will be on the S.S. Rotterdam sailing ("powering"/"cruising"?) from Boston to Rotterdam.  I have arranged to see map collections in St. John's, Nfnlnd, but that's all which I could fit in the pre-planned activities.  Hey, this may be pre-packaged, but it's a way to see several places, even briefly, probably never have a chance to get to otherwise.  Alas, the arrival in Rotterdam means getting bused iimmediately to the Amsterdam airport.  I tried to arrange a few days at the end, but the penalty for deviation - from the package, that is - is costly.  On 27 July, the ship is scheduled to dock at Dover at 0700 hrs. and depart at 1800 hrs.  There is an excursion to London, but the sights are either ones which I have seen or which don't interest me.  One could just get a ride to London, but I checked and no mappish event was noted for that date in London, falling between the map fairs.  Anything happening late morning, early afternoon to make a trip up worthwhile?  I can always stay in Dover and admire the scenery or stay aboard ship and read.  I presume book & map stores in Dover, if any, would not be open on a Sunday.
 
              JBP
 
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb4TKOd1fzXPu4DjkpY5nBjL4cOffa8rJbxM1YOc6K20fVUb2nDeM9HIeD1oVC63ug= X-Sender: sanderva@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:22:29 -0700 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Jeanne & Tom Sander Subject: Re: [MapHist] Mappish events? X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new JB, I never travel without first checking http://www.docktor.com/. John Docktor maintain a comprehensive of map/discovery events and exhibitions worldwide at that site. Anyone 'in the field' who has anything planned in that regard should be ashamed if they have not advised John (via the email address at that site) so that the world can be informed. Tom At 04:06 PM 7/9/03 -0400, you wrote: > From 12 July to 28 July, my wife and I will be on the S.S. Rotterdam > sailing ("powering"/"cruising"?) from Boston to Rotterdam. I have > arranged to see map collections in St. John's, Nfnlnd, but that's all > which I could fit in the pre-planned activities. Hey, this may be > pre-packaged, but it's a way to see several places, even briefly, > probably never have a chance to get to otherwise. Alas, the arrival in > Rotterdam means getting bused iimmediately to the Amsterdam airport. I > tried to arrange a few days at the end, but the penalty for deviation - > from the package, that is - is costly. On 27 July, the ship is scheduled > to dock at Dover at 0700 hrs. and depart at 1800 hrs. There is an > excursion to London, but the sights are either ones which I have seen or > which don't interest me. One could just get a ride to London, but I > checked and no mappish event was noted for that date in London, falling > between the map fairs. Anything happening late morning, early afternoon > to make a trip up worthwhile? I can always stay in Dover and admire the > scenery or stay aboard ship and read. I presume book & map stores in > Dover, if any, would not be open on a Sunday. > > JBP > *************************************************** Thomas F. Sander Editor, The Portolan Journal of the Washington Map Society Web Sites: Washington Map Society: http://www.washmap.org/ The Portolan: http://www.portolan.washmap.org/ _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Originating-IP: [204.213.37.215] X-Original-From: philhoehn@juno.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:51:18 GMT To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Article on online historical maps X-Mailer: WebMail Version 2.0 From: philhoehn@juno.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Article that might be of interest: Rumsey, David. "Tales from the Vault: Historical Maps Online." Common-Place, vol. 3, no. 4, July 2003. http://common-place.dreamhost.com//vol-03/no-04-new/tales/index.shtml Phil Hoehn, Map Librarian San Francisco -- philhoehn@juno.com ----------------------------------- Contractor for David Rumsey Collection: http://www.davidrumsey.com _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "R & P Betz" To: Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:57:50 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Zsolt, Thank you for your email of a few days ago and the reference for Verner on states, etc. Regarding your question on the use of insertable metal type on the Sebastian Munster maps - From my readings to date of Burmeister & others and from an examination of numerous Munster Africa maps, only insertable type was used for placenames but I do not know if insertable wooden type was used as well as insertable metal type. The map does contain a letter press title above the map in the upper margin. Also, there is a text block in the bottom left part of the map to correspond to various language editions. I would be pleased to hear from others with more information on this matter. It is interesting to note that it appears that the same woodblock was used to print the Africa map from 1540 to 1578 with evidence of increasing cracking to certain sections of the block over that period. On a related point and to follow-up your other post on ICHC 2005 conference topics - You mention some of your experiences preparing woodblocks and copperplates for reproduction purposes. At the recent ICHC in Portland, George Carhart gave a very interesting impromptu presentation to some of us on his personal experiences with changes in the woodblock and copperplate that he had prepared. Might George, you, and others use a poster presentation or some other means to further discuss what I think are some interesting findings. Sincerely, Richard betzmaps@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr.Zsolt Török" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:59 AM Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps > Dear Richard, > > I second Helen (although I am not a native English speaker): the term > 'state' seems more relevant for cartobibliographic description, even if > woodcut maps are usually considered to have been printed from unaltered > blocks. Coolie Verner, in his foundation article on cartobibliographical > description (Carto-Bibliographical Description: The Analysis of Variants > in Maps Printed from Copperplates. In: The American Cartographer, Vol.1, > No.1, 1974, pp.77-87) even says that ''variant state' should not be used > with reference to maps'. Despite the title, the paper refers to 'states' > of woodcut maps as well (see p.85). > > Comparing to copperplates, the alterations of wood blocks have received > much less attention in literature, the Münster maps are among the few > exceptions. (e.g.: Harold L. Ruland: A Survey of the Double-page Maps in > Thirty-five Editions of the Cosmographia Universalis 1544-1628 of > Sebastian Münster and in his Editions of Ptolemy's Geographia 1540-1552. > In: Imago Mundi, No.16, 1962, pp. 84-97.) > > The printing blocks were apparently relatively stable and the > printers/artists usually did not make changes- except for the cases when > they had to do so- for any reason. The major factor causing changes > could be the combination of the woodcut with metal types or stereotypes, > or the printed text set around/in the map. The Latin and German editions > of the world map in the famous Nuremberg Chronicle (1493) may illustrate > this (Tony Campbell: The Earliest Printed Maps... 219. At the same time > they demonstrate the problem of terminology: the two states of the map > are considered to be identical, while the text outside the map borders > makes the difference between the prints... > > Personal experience: as a traditional map maker I had to change a > woodblock when I printed my new edition of the Schedel's map in 1995. > After some prints, because of too high printing pressure, some woodcut > letters cracked (sorry...we all make mistakes...). I cut the damaged > part out and put a tiny plug into the hole and re-cut the letters. > Consequently, the next impressions from the block should be described as > State 2 by future cartobibliographers... > However, the results of the subtle amendment can not be seen on the > prints ... so they will have to read the ARCHIVES of MapHist! > (http://www.maphist.nl/) > > Regards, > > Zsolt > map and globe maker > http://lazarus.elte.hu/~zoltorok/Cartartweb/cartart_maps.htm > > PS: Richard, are you sure that inserted metal types were used for > printing the place names on the Münster maps? > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::-) _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "StJohn, Michael" To: "'MAPS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU'" , "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" Subject: [MapHist] Archval descripotion of maps - correction Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:14:54 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new In my response last week to David Allen's query about cataloguing of maps to individual sheet level, I wrote (referring to my own cataloguing work): Nor do the descriptions follow any international standard (they meet the BL's in-house rules) Two things: firstly, I should have written 'departmental rules' (in this case, Department of Manuscripts), not 'BL rules'. And secondly the descriptions I was referring to which do not follow international standards were descriptions of manuscript maps in the Department of Manuscripts, not printed (or any other type) maps in the Map Library, or other departments of the BL. Michael ************************************************************************** Now exhibiting at the British Library Galleries: Painted Labyrinth : the world of the Lindisfarne Gospels Until 28 September 2003. Admission Free. ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster@bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:16:32 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: [MapHist] List-owner's message: 5 addresses removed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Because of undeliverable error messages for more than two weeks, the following e-mail addresses are removed from the maphist list: knebenzahl@msn.com (Ken, where are you?) Maureen.Farrell@CPL.ORG pfrguson@LIB1.TCD.IE J.Clements@SHEFFIELD.AC.UK squeezeed@aol.com If somebody knows the owner of (one of) these e-mail addresses, please inform them that they have to re-s*bscribe maphist with a working e-mail address. Thanks Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Sieradzan Wielsaw" To: Subject: [MapHist] Thomme Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 09:22:55 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (*) X-Scanned-By: UMK MailServer, MIMEDefang 2.33 (www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
If somebody knows something about cartographer Heinrich Thomme from Germany (17th century) please inform me. I know very much about his activity in Poland ca. in middle of 17th century.
Thanks
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "van der heijden" To: Subject: [MapHist] de Beaurain Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:30:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
to all maphisters
Does anyone know a copy of Jean de Beaurain, Atlas de Geographie ancienne et moderne, Paris ca 1751 ?
Thank you
Henk van der Heijden
 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Lester Subject: [MapHist] Anno 1622 on Blaeu world map??? To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Hello, Someone sent me an e-mail asking for information about a map he was given 40 years ago. The images he sent look like a Blaeu single sheet world map (Shirley 255, State 4) with the exception of "Anno 1622" in the "America" cartouche near the top left of the map. On the uncertain assumption that the map is original, does any one know of a state of this map that includes Anno 1622 in the lower part of the America cartouche? An image of the cartouche is here: http://www.cummingmapsociety.org/1622BlaeuMap.htm (If it isn't a "clickable" link, use the "copy" and "paste" functions. If you type it, you must type EXACTLY as shown). Thanks so much for your help, Jay ===== Jay Lester Chapel Hill, NC mapsguy@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:08:49 +0200 X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "From" header. From: Dr.Zsolt Török Organization: Dept.of Cartography, ELTE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear Richard, My simple question regarding the printing of the geographical names on the Münster maps might have been deceptive. I would have liked to suggest you to consider another technology of printing the names of a woodblock maps from metal types. I should reformulate my question: Are you sure that only inserted metal types were used for printing all the text/names on the Münster maps, and they did not used stereotypes? Describing the states of Münster's America map, in his book Kenneth A. Kershaw mentions the replacement of a lost 'stereotype' (see Entry 9). Anyway, he uses the term 'state' instead of 'variant', which might be an answer to your original question as well. However, the problem of printing Münster's maps is an interesting new topic. I would be interested in hearing comments from you and also our expert list members. If they are all on holiday (?) we should continue the dialogue off list. Regards, Zsolt ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::-) R & P Betz wrote: > > Dear Zsolt, > > Thank you for your email of a few days ago and the reference for Verner on > states, etc. > > Regarding your question on the use of insertable metal type on the Sebastian > Munster maps - From my readings to date of Burmeister & others and from an > examination of numerous Munster Africa maps, only insertable type was > used for placenames but I do not know if insertable wooden type was used > as well as insertable metal type. The map does contain a letter press title > above the map in the upper margin. Also, there is a text block in the > bottom left part of the map to correspond to various language editions. I > would be pleased to hear from others with more information on this matter. > It is interesting to note that it appears that the same woodblock was used > to print the Africa map from 1540 to 1578 with evidence of increasing > cracking to certain sections of the block over that period. > > On a related point and to follow-up your other post on ICHC 2005 > conference topics - You mention some of your experiences preparing > woodblocks and copperplates for reproduction purposes. At the recent ICHC > in Portland, George Carhart gave a very interesting impromptu presentation > to some of us on his personal experiences with changes in the woodblock and > copperplate that he had prepared. Might George, you, and others use a > poster presentation or some other means to further discuss what I think are > some interesting findings. > > Sincerely, Richard > betzmaps@earthlink.net _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:29:31 -0500 From: David Woodward Subject: Re: [MapHist] Use of states or variants to describe woodcut maps To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Dear All: This question of stereotypes on the Münster maps was dealt with in Five Centuries of Map Printing (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1975). I see no reason not to use the word "state" to describe such changes. David Woodward On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 04:08 AM, Dr.Zsolt Török wrote: > Dear Richard, > > My simple question regarding the printing of the geographical names on > the Münster maps might have been deceptive. I would have liked to > suggest you to consider another technology of printing the names of a > woodblock maps from metal types. I should reformulate my question: > Are you sure that only inserted metal types were used for printing all > the text/names on the Münster maps, and they did not used stereotypes? > Describing the states of Münster's America map, in his book Kenneth A. > Kershaw mentions the replacement of a lost 'stereotype' (see Entry 9). > Anyway, he uses the term 'state' instead of 'variant', which might be > an > answer to your original question as well. > However, the problem of printing Münster's maps is an interesting new > topic. I would be interested in hearing comments from you and also our > expert list members. If they are all on holiday (?) we should continue > the dialogue off list. > > Regards, > > Zsolt > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::-) > > R & P Betz wrote: >> >> Dear Zsolt, >> >> Thank you for your email of a few days ago and the reference for >> Verner on >> states, etc. >> >> Regarding your question on the use of insertable metal type on the >> Sebastian >> Munster maps - From my readings to date of Burmeister & others and >> from an >> examination of numerous Munster Africa maps, only insertable type was >> used for placenames but I do not know if insertable wooden type was >> used >> as well as insertable metal type. The map does contain a letter >> press title >> above the map in the upper margin. Also, there is a text block in the >> bottom left part of the map to correspond to various language >> editions. I >> would be pleased to hear from others with more information on this >> matter. >> It is interesting to note that it appears that the same woodblock was >> used >> to print the Africa map from 1540 to 1578 with evidence of increasing >> cracking to certain sections of the block over that period. >> >> On a related point and to follow-up your other post on ICHC 2005 >> conference topics - You mention some of your experiences preparing >> woodblocks and copperplates for reproduction purposes. At the recent >> ICHC >> in Portland, George Carhart gave a very interesting impromptu >> presentation >> to some of us on his personal experiences with changes in the >> woodblock and >> copperplate that he had prepared. Might George, you, and others use a >> poster presentation or some other means to further discuss what I >> think are >> some interesting findings. >> >> Sincerely, Richard >> betzmaps@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > David Woodward Arthur H. Robinson Professor Emeritus University of Wisconsin 550 North Park Street MADISON WI 53706-1491 608 262-0505 http://www.geography.wisc.edu/faculty/woodward _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Fleet, Christopher" To: "'maphist@geog.uu.nl'" Subject: [MapHist] New website - Ordnance Survey Scottish town plans, 1847-1895 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:45:30 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new [With apologies for cross-posting] The National Library of Scotland has launched a new website, featuring 1,900 Ordnance Survey Scottish town plans, dating between 1847 and 1895. 62 towns were surveyed by Ordnance Survey, at the largest scales in their entire history (1:1,056, and 1:500), collectively forming a comprehensive snapshot of urban Scotland in the late 19th century. From the 1870s, fourteen towns were revised again, allowing useful chronological comparisons to be made. All of the original map sheets (with 24 x 36 inch neat lines) have been scanned in colour at a resolution of 400 dpi, and the resulting compressed images are freely available for viewing. Each town is accompanied by a descriptive essay, dates of survey and publication for every sheet, a legend covering map content and colouring, and (courtesy of Dr Richard Oliver) an explanation of Ordnance Survey abbreviations. The new website complements over 1,300 images of Scottish maps already online, including earlier town plans, county maps, maps of the whole country, and marine charts. Images and large format colour printouts can be ordered to suit individual needs. View the new Ordnance Survey town plans at: http://www.nls.uk/maps Christopher Fleet Map Library National Library of Scotland 33 Salisbury Place EDINBURGH, EH9 1SL. Scotland. Tel. 0131 466 3813 Fax. 0131 466 3812 E-mail: c.fleet@nls.uk Map website images: www.nls.uk/maps _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "tony campbell" To: "*MapHist" Subject: [MapHist] Observer piece on map thefts Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:59:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new In yesterday's [London] Observer (in the 'OM Magazine'): "Lost worlds Armed with nothing more than pencil sharpeners and baggy jumpers, Melvin Perry and Peter Bellwood plundered unsuspecting libraries across Europe, razoring thousands of priceless maps from medieval atlases. Mark Honigsbaum unearths a tale of naked greed, bungled security and unscrupulous dealers... " For full text see: < http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1001735,00.html > ***************************************** Tony Campbell t.campbell@ockendon.clara.co.uk ****************************************** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chet Van Duzer To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Isidorean world map X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (enterprise.svpal.org) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Can anyone recommend a more accessible reproduction of the map discussed in this article? AUTHOR: Baldacci, Osvaldo, TITLE: Communicazione e significato di un mappamondo isidoriano del secolo VIII (Vaticano latino 6018), con una appendice su il pilota sconosciuto. PUBLICATION: Atti della Accademia nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti. Classe di scienze morali, storiche e filologiche,, 1995, v.6, no.4, p. 693-706; 2 maps (1 col.), 03918181 ABSTRACT: Analyzes the symbolic representation of the known world in an 8th c. map (Rome, Biblioteca apostolica vaticana, MS Vat. Lat. 6018), possibly linked with the geographical treatises of Isidore of Seville. Discusses the legend of the unknown navigator who was said to have told Christopher Columbus about an undiscovered land in the western Atlantic, and suggests that the 8th c. map, which depicts an island inscribed unknown island of gold, reflects an earlier expression of the same longheld idea. Thanks in advance! Chet Van Duzer _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] Isidorean world map Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:39:54 -0500 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MapHist] Isidorean world map Thread-Index: AcNPzNJaHQZcQgC1RD2Ch4zHH9mKVgAhZ9tO From: "Lozovsky, Natalia" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2003 13:39:54.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC09BC30:01C35056] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new It's reproduced and discussed in E. Edson, Mapping Time and Space (London, 1997), fig. 4.2, pp. 61-64 and in L. Chekin, "Easter Tables and the Pseudo-Isidorean Vatican Map," Imago Mundi 51 (1999), and there is a reproduction in Itineraria et alia geographica, Corpus Christianorum Series Latina, vol. 175. The largest reproduction, as far as I know, is in R. Uhden, "Die Weltkarte des Isidorus von Sevilla," Mnemosyne: Bibliotheca Classica Batavia, 3rd ser (1935-36), pp. 1-28. I don't remember if there is a good reproduction in color. Best, Natalia Lozovsky -----Original Message----- From: Chet Van Duzer [mailto:chetv@svpal.org] Sent: Mon 7/21/2003 4:12 PM To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Cc: Subject: [MapHist] Isidorean world map Can anyone recommend a more accessible reproduction of the map discussed in this article? AUTHOR: Baldacci, Osvaldo, TITLE: Communicazione e significato di un mappamondo isidoriano del secolo VIII (Vaticano latino 6018), con una appendice su il pilota sconosciuto. PUBLICATION: Atti della Accademia nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti. Classe di scienze morali, storiche e filologiche,, 1995, v.6, no.4, p. 693-706; 2 maps (1 col.), 03918181 ABSTRACT: Analyzes the symbolic representation of the known world in an 8th c. map (Rome, Biblioteca apostolica vaticana, MS Vat. Lat. 6018), possibly linked with the geographical treatises of Isidore of Seville. Discusses the legend of the unknown navigator who was said to have told Christopher Columbus about an undiscovered land in the western Atlantic, and suggests that the 8th c. map, which depicts an island inscribed unknown island of gold, reflects an earlier expression of the same longheld idea. Thanks in advance! Chet Van Duzer _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Map Collector Publications Ltd" To: Subject: [MapHist] Eugene Quackenbush Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:41:03 +0100 Organization: Map Collector Publications Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
Dear Maphisters
Can anyone throw light on a cartographer named Eugene Quackenbush who had a work entitled "Topographic Atlas City of New York" attributed to him in the 1979 "Tooley's Dictionary of Mapmakers"? As Editor of Volumes III and IV of the revised edition of the Dictionary  I  would like to know if this gentleman (and I am sure he must have been one) existed as I have failed to find him in any of the literature. If anyone can help please send an e-mail to me personally rather than the list (mapcollector@btopenworld.com).
 
Many thanks
Valerie Scott
Editor of Volumes III and IV of the revised edition of Tooley's Dictionary of Mapmakers.
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:19:51 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: List-owner MapHist Subject: [MapHist] Answer all relevant questions to the list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new At 11:41 23-7-2003, you wrote: >If anyone can help please send an e-mail to me personally rather than the >list All Long time ago was agreed to answer all relevant questions to the list and not private to prevent double work and to keep the exchange of ideas going. Please, keep it that way. (It is very annoying to do some research to answer a question to the list, and to get as reaction from the questioner, 'Thanks but I got the same answer a few hours ago personally from so-and-so...'. Next time, you don't take the trouble to answer a question). Peter Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Map Collector Publications Ltd" To: Subject: Re: [MapHist] Answer all relevant questions to the list Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:02:05 +0100 Organization: Map Collector Publications Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new So sorry. I said to answer off-list because I thought that is what you wanted. Won't do it again!!! Regards Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "List-owner MapHist" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: [MapHist] Answer all relevant questions to the list > At 11:41 23-7-2003, you wrote: > >If anyone can help please send an e-mail to me personally rather than the > >list > > All > > Long time ago was agreed to answer all relevant questions to the list and > not private to prevent double work and to keep the exchange of ideas going. > Please, keep it that way. > > (It is very annoying to do some research to answer a question to the list, > and to get as reaction from the questioner, 'Thanks but I got the same > answer a few hours ago personally from so-and-so...'. Next time, you don't > take the trouble to answer a question). > > Peter > > > > > Peter van der Krogt > List-owner MapHist > > List-info: http://www.maphist.nl > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:15:34 -0400 From: Jeremy Pool User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en,pdf To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Eugene Quackenbush X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new The same atlas title ("Topographic Atlas of the City of New York") and 1874 date is also listed in Tooley's under Egbert L. Viele. New York Public Library's catalog indicates that a copy of this is in their map collection. Perhaps Alice Hudson could look at it to see if Quackenbush is identified there as playing some role in the production of this atlas. -- Jeremy Pool Map Collector Publications Ltd wrote: > Dear Maphisters > Can anyone throw light on a cartographer named Eugene Quackenbush who > had a work entitled "Topographic Atlas City of New York" attributed to > him in the 1979 "Tooley's Dictionary of Mapmakers"? As Editor of > Volumes III and IV of the revised edition of the Dictionary I would > like to know if this gentleman (and I am sure he must have been one) > existed as I have failed to find him in any of the literature. If > anyone can help please send an e-mail to me personally rather than the > list (mapcollector@btopenworld.com ). > > Many thanks > Valerie Scott > Editor of Volumes III and IV of the revised edition of /Tooley's > Dictionary of Mapmakers/. _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: panis@pacbell.net@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com X-mailer: Eudora Pro 5.2 Macintosh Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:16:11 -0700 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: John McChesney-Young Subject: Re: [MapHist] Answer all relevant questions to the list X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Listowner Peter van der Krogt requested: > Long time ago was agreed to answer all relevant questions to the list and > not private to prevent double work and to keep the exchange of ideas > going. I confess that out of uncertainty about the correctness of my answer I responded to the (Ps.-)Isidorean map question off-list. Since the inquirer confirmed that the reproduction I found on-line was of the map in question and I think there may be others who'd find it of interest, I'll pass the link along to the list now: http://digilander.libero.it/capurromrc/!0158mappa.html > an 8th c. map (Rome, Biblioteca apostolica vaticana, MS > Vat. Lat. 6018) John -- *** John McChesney-Young ** panis@pacbell.net ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. *** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Barber, Peter" To: "Maphist (E-mail)" , "'lis-maps@jiscmail.ac.uk>, \"'maps-l@uga.cc.uga.edu'\" ,'" , 'carto-soc@sheffield.ac.uk' Subject: [MapHist] Helen Wallis Fellow 2003-4 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:25:23 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Please excuse the cross-posting Helen Wallis Fellowship at the British Library awarded for 2003 -2004 I am pleased to announce that the seventh Helen Wallis Fellow, Iride Rosa, a doctoral student attached to the University of Naples who is researching into early English printed town panoramas, will be taking up residence in the British Library's Map Library in September 2003. She intends to work here for a full year. The fellowship, named after the former Map Librarian, the late Dr Helen Wallis, 'confers recognition by the Library on a scholar whose work will help promote the extended and complementary use of the British Library's book and cartographic collections in historical investigation'. The Wallis Fellow has similar privileges to those accorded the Centre for the Book Fellows (with an additional £300 to spend on BL services). For the full terms of reference please contact peter.barber@bl.uk *********************************************************************** Peter Barber MA, FSA, FRHistS Head of Map Collections Map Library The British Library 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB tel.: [44] 020 7412 7701 fax: [44] 020 7412 7780 *********************************************************************** ************************************************************************** Now exhibiting at the British Library Galleries: Painted Labyrinth : the world of the Lindisfarne Gospels Until 28 September 2003. Admission Free. ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster@bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] Answer all relevant questions to the list Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:32:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new John McChesney-Young: Thankyou; and - as you will now *surely* remember - Tony Campbell can check that he has this web-site listed on his 'History of Cartography' gateway site [http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/maps/] NB/PS (*something new*): from yesterday on the RGS-IBG website, under 'Collections' - 'Unlocking the Archives Project', one can click "To view the pictures of the building progress . . .". Although they cannot convey the effect of daily drilling under the feet of the two Map Room staff (only) evacuated during spring of 2002 to the Society's Library (one reading bay each)! Francis Herbert f.herbert@rgs.org http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives'] -----Original Message----- From: John McChesney-Young [mailto:panis@pacbell.net] Sent: 23 July 2003 16:16 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Answer all relevant questions to the list Listowner Peter van der Krogt requested: > Long time ago was agreed to answer all relevant questions to the list and > not private to prevent double work and to keep the exchange of ideas > going. I confess that out of uncertainty about the correctness of my answer I responded to the (Ps.-)Isidorean map question off-list. Since the inquirer confirmed that the reproduction I found on-line was of the map in question and I think there may be others who'd find it of interest, I'll pass the link along to the list now: http://digilander.libero.it/capurromrc/!0158mappa.html > an 8th c. map (Rome, Biblioteca apostolica vaticana, MS > Vat. Lat. 6018) John -- *** John McChesney-Young ** panis@pacbell.net ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. *** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Harold Cramer" To: Subject: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:31:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop015.verizon.net from [151.201.39.111] at Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:30:18 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Hello: I have just seen a brochure from the Pan-American exhibition of 1915 where the Pennsylvania Railroad exhibited a 42 x 26 foot relief map of the northeastern United States. It was claimed to be the largest relief map in the world. Does anyone know what became of this exhibit? Is it in some museum or library where it can be seen? Yours truly, Harold Cramer _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:40:32 -0700 From: Martin Kyle Subject: Re: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Hi Harold: I can't help you with that item...but a large relief map from my area is now in storage awaiting a new home...built in the 50's from wood it measures 80 x 76 feet. FYI http://www.vancourier.com/123202/news/123202nn6.html Martin Kyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Cramer" To: Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:31 AM Subject: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap > Hello: > > I have just seen a brochure from the Pan-American exhibition of 1915 where > the Pennsylvania Railroad exhibited a 42 x 26 foot relief map of the > northeastern United States. It was claimed to be the largest relief map in > the world. > > Does anyone know what became of this exhibit? Is it in some museum or > library where it can be seen? > > Yours truly, > Harold Cramer > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Jens P. Bornholt" To: Subject: Re: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:23:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
I would like to draw attention to the relief map of Guatemala which will be admired by all IMCoS 2007 Symposium in Guatemala. This large relief map is mentioned in Mercator's World Jan/Feb 2002 issue vol.7 #1 p.28. This map is  19,500 ft.sq.= abt 1,800 Mt.sq., on a horizontal scale of 1:10,000 and vertical scale 1:2,000
regards to all,
Jens P.Bornholt, Guatemala
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap

Hi Harold:

I can't help you with that item...but a large relief map from my area is now
in storage awaiting a new home...built in the 50's from wood it measures 80
x 76 feet.

FYI http://www.vancourier.com/123202/news/123202nn6.html

Martin Kyle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Cramer" <cramerhj@bellatlantic.net>
To: <maphist@geog.uu.nl>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:31 AM
Subject: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap


> Hello:
>
> I have just seen a brochure from the Pan-American exhibition of 1915 where
> the Pennsylvania Railroad exhibited a 42 x 26 foot relief map of the
> northeastern United States. It was claimed to be the largest relief map in
> the world.
>
> Does anyone know what became of this exhibit? Is it in some museum or
> library where it can be seen?
>
> Yours truly,
> Harold Cramer
>
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 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: docktor@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:39:17 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "John W. Docktor" Subject: Re: [MapHist] LargestReliefMap X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new >I have just seen a brochure from the Pan-American exhibition of 1915 where >the Pennsylvania Railroad exhibited a 42 x 26 foot relief map of the >northeastern United States. It was claimed to be the largest relief map in >the world. > >Does anyone know what became of this exhibit? Is it in some museum or >library where it can be seen? The Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in Strasburg has an extensive collection of Pennsylvania Railroad material. I'm not certain, but I think that when I was there a few years ago that the map was on display on the second floor. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John W. Docktor Phone: 717-846-8997 Fax: 717-845-9337 Cartography - Calendars of Events & Exhibitions: http://www.docktor.com/ Washington Map Society: http://www.washmap.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:40:23 -0400 From: overlee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] The Waldseemuller Map X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop016.verizon.net from [141.154.182.237] at Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:41:58 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Map-histers should read the article in today's, July 25, Wall Street Journal by John J. Miller, entitled "You Are Here," on page W19. Miller, a writer for the National Review, believes that the map is "a bit less precious, and even over-priced. It remains important but may not be the blockbuster that the library [of Congress] wants us to think it is, or at least not for the stated reasons." Martin Torodash _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] FW: Library criticised over map thefts Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:34:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Forwarded (one of a half-dozen comments on the subject) from another discussion list. f.herbert@rgs.org http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections'/'Unlocking the Archives' (illustrated version!)] -----Original Message----- From: Four Oaks Farm [mailto:FOFarm@worldnet.att.net] Sent: 26 July 2003 15:22 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Library criticised over map thefts "Of course" it's The Library which should be criticized (please to note the passive voice) and by the ABA. The ABA dare not criticize the police, nor work with the police on a simple course of instruction. (I recollect the theft of tens of atlases from Yale in the early 1970s. At the time there was an upcoming sale of atlases at Parke Bernet. We were visited by a polite policeman who had read of the sale and was curious. It took me a few minutes to realize that his visual concept of atlases was that of the pocket maps used to plan trips by car. I pointed to the atlases being organized for the sale. He considered the size and commented: "It would have taken a truck to move the atlases from the library". It gave him a new perspective on the matter). I am puzzled by the "use of razors". How exactly could this be done? Librarians are restricted in what they may report, and how report it. The correct procedure is to report the theft to the police. What of the ABA members who are only to prone to buy bargains without provenance, yet as prone to criticize libraries for continuing the traditional method of ownership and provenance. The ignorant are invited to reflect upon the use of Lugt MARQUES DE COLLECTIONS, of its value and interest. Gabriel Austin ---- Original Message ----- From: "CulPropProNet/MuSecNetwork" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 3:28 AM Subject: UK: Library criticised over map thefts ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] 1908 atlas Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:04:35 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
   The 1908 Mueller ATLAS OF PROPERTIES ON MAIN LINE PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD FROM OVERBROOK TO PAOLI is on-line at http://www.franklinmaps.com should anyone be interested.
 
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 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:21:16 +0900 To: "owner-maphist-geog.uu.nl" From: Henny Savenije Subject: [MapHist] Maps of China X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new >Antique Maps of China Database > >Library, Hong Kong University of Science & Technology, Hong Kong, China. > >Self-description: "The maps included in this database are from the Special >Collections of the Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library. >The Antique Maps of China collection includes more than 230 maps, charts, >pictures, books and atlases. It represents almost all samples of China >maps produced by European cartographers from the 16th to 19th centuries. >This cartographic archive vividly records the long history of >cross-cultural exchanges between China and the West." > >Site contents: WORLD; PACIFIC OCEAN; ASIA; SOUTH ASIA; SOUTHEAST ASIA: * >Burma; * Philippines; * Vietnam; EAST ASIA: * China Anhui, Beijing, >Dongbei Diqu, Fujian (Fuzhou, Xiamen), Gansu, Guangdong (Guangzhou, >Shangchuan Dao, Zhujiang Kou), Guangxi, Guizhou, Hainan, Hebei, >Heilongjiang, Henan, Hong Kong, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangsu, Jilin, Liaoning, >Macau, Nei Mongol, Ningxia, Qinghai, Shaanxi, Shandong, Shanxi, Sichuan, >Taiwan (Chin-men hsien, Peng-hu hsien, Zeelandia), Xinjiang, Xizang >[Tibet], Yunnan, Zhejiang (Hangzhou, Zhoushan Qundao); * Japan; * Korea; * >Mongolia; * Siberia; * Russia (Lake Baikal Region, Russian Far East, Sakhalin). > >URL http://lbxml.ust.hk/mp/main.html > >Link suggested by: Steven Leibo (sleibo@sage.edu), forwarded by >h-asia@h-net.msu.edu > >* Resource type [news - documents - study - corporate info. - online guide]: > Documents >* Publisher [academic - business - govt. - library/museum - NGO - other]: > Library >* Scholarly usefulness [essential - v.useful - useful - interesting - >marginal]: > V. Useful >* External links to the resource [over 3,000 - under 3,000 - under 1,000 - > under 300 - under 100 - under 30]: under 30 Henny (Lee Hae Kang) ----------------------------- http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr Portal to all my sites http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in English) Feel free to discover Korea with Hendrick Hamel (1653-1666) http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/indexk2.htm In Korean http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/Dutch In Dutch http://www.vos.henny-savenije.pe.kr Frits Vos Article about Witsen and Eibokken and his first Korean-Dutch dictionary http://www.cartography.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in English) Korea through Western Cartographic eyes http://www.hwasong.henny-savenije.pe.kr Hwasong the fortress in Suwon http://www.oldKorea.henny-savenije.pe.kr Old Korea in pictures http://www.british.henny-savenije.pe.kr A British encounter in Pusan (1797) http://www.genealogy.henny-savenije.pe.kr Genealogy http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr/bboard Bulletin board for Korean studies _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Panels on medieval geography--call for papers Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:21:38 -0500 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MapHist] Maps of China Thread-Index: AcNWlOENLTlP/VkTRU2gf097j4tDGAAIWwiv From: "Lozovsky, Natalia" To: , "owner-maphist-geog.uu.nl" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2003 16:21:38.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[A715B480:01C356B6] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new CALL FOR PAPERS Maps, Texts, and Travels in the Middle Ages Contributions are invited for two sessions on medieval geography and ethnography at the Medieval Congress in Kalamazoo, MI, 6 - 9 May 2004. Geography played an important role in medieval society. Its learned component provided material for contemplation and education, helping people to understand the Creator by means of studying the physical world. Its practical component, the knowledge of places and peoples, was indispensable for peaceful travel and military expeditions. In its turn, geography was influenced by various contemporary developments, from conversion to conquest to administration. Thus maps, travel accounts, and learned texts can provide us with a unique perspective on social and cultural constructions of space, political and religious changes, perceptions of territorial and ethnic identity. In recent years these questions have drawn much scholarly attention. To give a few examples, the latest publications on the Hereford map and contributions to the volumes in the series The Transformation of the Roman World have once again demonstrated how many insights can be gained from studying medieval conceptions of space(s). In the spirit of these recent achievements, our two panels will explore how maps, geographical texts, and travel narratives both revealed current trends in medieval society and culture and interacted with them. This exploration will also contribute to our better understanding of the methodology involved in working with medieval geographical and ethnographical sources and with the ideas there contained. Please send abstracts by September 1, 2003 to lozovsky@yahoo.com. You can find information about the congress and the abstract cover sheet at http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/congress/index.html All the best, Natalia Lozovsky _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: tnfoss@nsit-imap.uchicago.edu (Unverified) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:48:57 -0500 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Theodore N. Foss" Subject: [MapHist] New book on China in European maps X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new This looks like a nice new publication: China in European Maps - A Library Special Collection Compiled and Edited by Min-min Chang To find out about and order directly from the publisher(HKUST Library) please go to the publication website for details and ordering email address. http://library.ust.hk/cgi-forms/mapsbook-order.pl To deal directly with the publisher inquiries may be sent to: Clara Kwan (Tel: 852-2358-6703. Email: lbclara@ust.hk). _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. 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